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  Q54 MY CONVERSATION WITH A SCHEMER
   

This is very long but a must read. See how pyramid schemes distributors will start with small investments and then eventually lead you to loose your money. Note how this schemer starts with 7980PHP TO 39,900PHP TO 319,200PHP TO 2,234,400PHP. Done some editing for easier reading. *PHP stands for Philippine pesos*

MARLYN: Hello
EDWARD CHAI: Hi there
MARLYN: Mam aim global din po kayo ha
EDWARD CHAI: Do not understand Tagalog
MARLYN: Ok mam are you already member of the aim global company
EDWARD CHAI: No.
MARLYN: Ok, are u fund of establishing business?

EDWARD CHAI: What do u mean. Do not understand
MARLYN: I am distributor of US Natures ways. Are u familiar?
EDWARD CHAI: Yes
MARLYN: Oh nice, I want to share my business to you,
EDWARD CHAI: How

MARLYN: I share the video to you. Can you watch it?
EDWARD CHAI: No need. Just tell me how it works. How many heads.
MARLYN: Ok it’s a multilevel network marketing wherein it only requires small capital, yet big income in returns
EDWARD CHAI: I know MLM. Have already been in 3 companies. So no need to tell me the basis. What is the capital required. By the way I do have some spare money. How much should I invest?

MARLYN: That’s great, for you to be able to get into the business one head is equivalent to 7980 in Philippine peso, but you can register as many as you want for international like you, it is most prefer to join in multiple heads max of 7 heads
EDWARD CHAI: Why International only 7? Only 39,900 pesos? I have millions.

MARLYN: Oh really my friend, ok the best thing that I can offer to is that join first in multiple heads, that’s 7 heads for you, another 7 heads for your wife if you have and another 7 heads for those relatives of yours you want to join the business. After that you may now have your own office there in Taiwan, because the requirements is that you need to have 40 downlines first before having it. Hello pal, are you still there

EDWARD CHAI: You mean I can buy to have office in Taiwan
MARLYN: Yes, precisely.
EDWARD CHAI: And after the office, where do I get the products. After 40 heads and an office, what then? How much will I make from my 40 heads? You better be good because I know too many bad people in MLM.

MARLYN: Of course pal. I’m honestly dealing with. I’m not like those other networker who wants to just earn but instead to help also.
EDWARD CHAI: You have not answered how much I will make when I buy 40 heads. Now tell me precisely what help you will give me.

MARLYN: Here is the procedure my friend, first you need to sent money to me the one that you use for the registration of 40 heads then I will sent you back the product package help in terms of sharing how much the products are effective for our health. Ok my friend its 319,200 in Philippine peso for 40 heads

EDWARD CHAI: That’s all! I have been using health foods for 30 years and do know many products and product knowledge is easy for me to learn and understand. I teach people on this subject. So I do not need your help in this area. By the way you are coming to Taiwan to teach me
MARLYN: Of course. Not for the products only but also in sharing this business to you.

EDWARD CHAI: I asked you how much I would make from my investment. Of course I have already calculated that 40 heads will cost me 319,200PHP.
MARLYN: Ok our business goes like this. We have several ways to earn. 1. Retail sales profit 25% discount when you sell products 2.direct referral bonus earn 500php for every person joined which is directed to you 3.sales matching bonus additional 1500PHP for every person joined in your left and right side 4. Stair step or the overriding commission 5. Royalty income
MARLYN: Selling would be optional

EDWARD CHAI: So what is my total profit for my 319200 investments? Take your time to calculate if you want. I can wait for your answer.
MARLYN: ok I will calculate it first. Wait for a minute ok thanks
MARLYN: Just wait pal. I’m still computing thanks
MARLYN: I got it my friend that investment will bring you back 112,500php instantly and 240000 worth of products*my. Hello pal are you still there? If you have queries don’t hesitate to ask. I’m very much willing to answer it

EDWARD CHAI: You are not telling me everything yet because I do understand binary plan. How much do I have to buy for every head to get my bonus so as to get back 112,500 PHP? In most companies, if I buy 319,200PHP of products, I will get 319,200PHP more or less of products. Why only 240,000PHP worth of products from Aim?

MARLYN: if I were to tag you picture of a products package would you mind to browse it
EDWARD CHAI: No need. I have seen hundreds of MLM products and package

MARLYN: Binary plan is hybrid, because were not earning just because we have person in your left and right, yet we also earn through people to product and product to product because we are point system meaning if you have 1200 group points in your left and 1200 group points in your right it will match and 1500 will be given to you by the company that’s why in this business your not earning because of recruiting but also if you are using products

EDWARD CHAI: You have not answered this question yet. You are not telling me everything yet because I do understand binary plan. How much do I have to buy for every head to get my bonus so as to get back 112,500PHP?

MARLYN: For every head you need to invest 55860PHP that’s equivalent to 7 accounts
EDWARD CHAI: How many heads per account? 7 heads right?
MARLYN: 7 head per account, but if you would like to complete the requirements to put up office you need 40 account, thus 1 person have a maximum of 7 heads or account

EDWARD CHAI: Wait a minute. 7 heads per account x 40 accounts equals 280 heads. Am I correct? 280 heads x 7980php equals 2,234,400PHP right?
MARLYN: it can be but you will be using different name because the requirement is maximum of 7 heads per name or person. Exactly.

EDWARD CHAI: Clear and direct answer. Right or Wrong. 280 heads x 7980PHP equals 2,234,400PHP right or wrong?
MARLYN: Right.

EDWARD CHAI: Ok. So this is what you guys do in Aim. Now go and ask the owners of Aim and see if they know me. Please stop your nonsense. People like you will destroy the good name of our industry. You are not in MLM or Network Marketing. You are just playing the money game.

MARLYN: if the owners require you to visit our office and discuss all about the business would you mind to go here for a meeting? no my friend. I’m a official member of aim global company, you can check it on our website at www.allianceinmotion.com our board of directors are Doc Eduardo Cabantog, Engr Francis Miguel and Mr. John Aspirin. I’m not playing the money game my dear friend. As I have said i am honestly dealing with you and I’m looking forward for a fruitful business relationship with you

EDWARD CHAI: Ask Francis Miguel and John Aspirin who is Eddy Chai so that you know me better. Not playing the money game? Please read what you wrote me and how you teach me to buy heads. Everything is in black and white. You are not looking for a fruitful business relationship with me. You are just look at me with the eyes of a wolf and see how I can loose my money so that you can make money. Stop your nonsense.

MARLYN: No my dear friend its just a matter of misunderstanding.
EDWARD CHAI: No misunderstanding here. Our conversation will be published to educate others. Sorry to lead you along.

 
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